Comments on: John Clark on Mesoamerican Origins http://www.fairblog.org/2008/03/14/john-clark-on-mesoamerican-origins/ Defending Mormonism Fri, 16 May 2008 02:56:50 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Keller http://www.fairblog.org/2008/03/14/john-clark-on-mesoamerican-origins/#comment-1752 Keller Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:43:12 +0000 http://www.fairblog.org/2008/03/14/john-clark-on-mesoamerican-origins/#comment-1752 Joe, I don't have any updates for you yet. I will try emailing a few people this week and see what I can come up with and report back. If I can't find more about about the presentation, I hope I can at least find some journal articles where Clark has published on the subject before. Joe,

I don’t have any updates for you yet. I will try emailing a few people this week and see what I can come up with and report back. If I can’t find more about about the presentation, I hope I can at least find some journal articles where Clark has published on the subject before.

]]> By: Joe Geisner http://www.fairblog.org/2008/03/14/john-clark-on-mesoamerican-origins/#comment-1728 Joe Geisner Sat, 29 Mar 2008 17:34:31 +0000 http://www.fairblog.org/2008/03/14/john-clark-on-mesoamerican-origins/#comment-1728 Just curious if anyone has been able to get a transcript or audio of Dr. Clark's presentation? Just curious if anyone has been able to get a transcript or audio of Dr. Clark’s presentation?

]]> By: larryco_ http://www.fairblog.org/2008/03/14/john-clark-on-mesoamerican-origins/#comment-1425 larryco_ Mon, 17 Mar 2008 21:24:59 +0000 http://www.fairblog.org/2008/03/14/john-clark-on-mesoamerican-origins/#comment-1425 It's good that Dr. Clark believes that there is increasing evidence that places BOM origins in Mesoamerica, but I'm afraid I still waiting for the smoking cimeter. Fantastic claims demand fantastic evidence, as Carl Sagan said, and I hope to be alive when that evidence is found, whether in Mesoamerica, Palmyra, Chile, Micronesia, or an isle of the sea. (a "12 miles to Zarahemla" roadsign would be nice) It’s good that Dr. Clark believes that there is increasing evidence that places BOM origins in Mesoamerica, but I’m afraid I still waiting for the smoking cimeter. Fantastic claims demand fantastic evidence, as Carl Sagan said, and I hope to be alive when that evidence is found, whether in Mesoamerica, Palmyra, Chile, Micronesia, or an isle of the sea. (a “12 miles to Zarahemla” roadsign would be nice)

]]> By: Keller http://www.fairblog.org/2008/03/14/john-clark-on-mesoamerican-origins/#comment-1419 Keller Mon, 17 Mar 2008 17:04:50 +0000 http://www.fairblog.org/2008/03/14/john-clark-on-mesoamerican-origins/#comment-1419 Eric, Dr. Clark was making funny jokes the entire lecture and I disproportionally reported them because that is what I remember best. I think that he had Ferguson in mind as he mentioned him at a different spot in the presentation. So it was kind of an insider joke as well as a caution in putting too much faith in how much the Book of Mormon can be confirmed by scientific processes. I doubt that the Word of Wisdom is one of those absolute standards of morality. I class it as a covenant that helps set us a part as a people in our time. An analogy would be circumcision and dietary guidelines under the Law of Moses for the Nephites. Eric,

Dr. Clark was making funny jokes the entire lecture and I disproportionally reported them because that is what I remember best. I think that he had Ferguson in mind as he mentioned him at a different spot in the presentation. So it was kind of an insider joke as well as a caution in putting too much faith in how much the Book of Mormon can be confirmed by scientific processes.

I doubt that the Word of Wisdom is one of those absolute standards of morality. I class it as a covenant that helps set us a part as a people in our time. An analogy would be circumcision and dietary guidelines under the Law of Moses for the Nephites.

]]> By: Eric Nielson http://www.fairblog.org/2008/03/14/john-clark-on-mesoamerican-origins/#comment-1417 Eric Nielson Mon, 17 Mar 2008 15:48:41 +0000 http://www.fairblog.org/2008/03/14/john-clark-on-mesoamerican-origins/#comment-1417 He seems to have given a couple of jabs. He says many in the foundation were either non-Mormon or becoming non-Mormon? That doesn't sound very good. Pointing out WofW violations of ancient people? Hmmm. He seems to have given a couple of jabs. He says many in the foundation were either non-Mormon or becoming non-Mormon? That doesn’t sound very good. Pointing out WofW violations of ancient people? Hmmm.

]]> By: Joe Geisner http://www.fairblog.org/2008/03/14/john-clark-on-mesoamerican-origins/#comment-1399 Joe Geisner Sun, 16 Mar 2008 21:53:41 +0000 http://www.fairblog.org/2008/03/14/john-clark-on-mesoamerican-origins/#comment-1399 Keller, Thanks for commenting and the link. If it does surface, I hope a link could be posted at this sight. I really would like to read or hear the entire talk. Keller,

Thanks for commenting and the link. If it does surface, I hope a link could be posted at this sight. I really would like to read or hear the entire talk.

]]> By: Keller http://www.fairblog.org/2008/03/14/john-clark-on-mesoamerican-origins/#comment-1395 Keller Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:10:22 +0000 http://www.fairblog.org/2008/03/14/john-clark-on-mesoamerican-origins/#comment-1395 Clark (#1), I don't know what the situation is with copyright on the photographs. Your guess is as good as mine. Joe (#3) This <a href="http://fhss.byu.edu/anthro/Main%20Menu/events2.htm" rel="nofollow">link</a> indicates that Clark is finishing up a book on the subject. Somebody was digitally recording the lecture, so it may resurface somewhere. Clark (#1), I don’t know what the situation is with copyright on the photographs. Your guess is as good as mine.

Joe (#3) This link indicates that Clark is finishing up a book on the subject. Somebody was digitally recording the lecture, so it may resurface somewhere.

]]> By: Joe Geisner http://www.fairblog.org/2008/03/14/john-clark-on-mesoamerican-origins/#comment-1381 Joe Geisner Sun, 16 Mar 2008 06:10:23 +0000 http://www.fairblog.org/2008/03/14/john-clark-on-mesoamerican-origins/#comment-1381 Keller, Thank you very much for posting your report of this talk. I too wish you had been able to take more detailed notes to share with us. But you have done quite a nice service in what you were able to provide. Is there any way you can contact Dr. Clark and ask him to post his paper on the FAIR website? I find his comments to be quite interesting. Keller,

Thank you very much for posting your report of this talk. I too wish you had been able to take more detailed notes to share with us. But you have done quite a nice service in what you were able to provide.

Is there any way you can contact Dr. Clark and ask him to post his paper on the FAIR website? I find his comments to be quite interesting.

]]> By: Jack http://www.fairblog.org/2008/03/14/john-clark-on-mesoamerican-origins/#comment-1377 Jack Sun, 16 Mar 2008 00:24:11 +0000 http://www.fairblog.org/2008/03/14/john-clark-on-mesoamerican-origins/#comment-1377 Boy, I'm staring to believe that the evidence is all right there in front of us. We just need to learn to see it for what it is--much like Alma's view of creation. Boy, I’m staring to believe that the evidence is all right there in front of us. We just need to learn to see it for what it is–much like Alma’s view of creation.

]]> By: Clark http://www.fairblog.org/2008/03/14/john-clark-on-mesoamerican-origins/#comment-1363 Clark Sat, 15 Mar 2008 02:07:37 +0000 http://www.fairblog.org/2008/03/14/john-clark-on-mesoamerican-origins/#comment-1363 What does that mean that the photos are worth $50,000? He didn't own them and would have to pay copyright? What does that mean that the photos are worth $50,000? He didn’t own them and would have to pay copyright?

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