Comments on: FAIR in Religion News Service http://www.fairblog.org/2008/02/15/fair-in-religious-news-service/ Defending Mormonism Fri, 25 Jul 2008 02:02:38 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Emeliza http://www.fairblog.org/2008/02/15/fair-in-religious-news-service/#comment-1087 Emeliza Tue, 04 Mar 2008 20:01:19 +0000 http://www.fairblog.org/2008/02/15/fair-in-religious-news-service/#comment-1087 How weird. I just had this conversation with a co-worker today. I honestly wish that if the Church is going to use an artistic depiction of Joseph Smith translating the BoM, that it include the seer stone and the U/T process. I understand that often the picture of him translating as a person would if they knew the language in front of them is to help people see that he was 'translating', but it also gives off the impression that this is how he did translate and to my understanding he never did. I guess I am into the idea of being a bit more honest with the rendition here. I personally see nothing wrong with his using the seer stone as it still is impressive (maybe even more so) and it does speak to me of priestcraft or occult like. Power of God comes in many forms. How weird. I just had this conversation with a co-worker today. I honestly wish that if the Church is going to use an artistic depiction of Joseph Smith translating the BoM, that it include the seer stone and the U/T process. I understand that often the picture of him translating as a person would if they knew the language in front of them is to help people see that he was ‘translating’, but it also gives off the impression that this is how he did translate and to my understanding he never did. I guess I am into the idea of being a bit more honest with the rendition here. I personally see nothing wrong with his using the seer stone as it still is impressive (maybe even more so) and it does speak to me of priestcraft or occult like. Power of God comes in many forms.

]]> By: Greg Smith http://www.fairblog.org/2008/02/15/fair-in-religious-news-service/#comment-952 Greg Smith Tue, 26 Feb 2008 17:13:02 +0000 http://www.fairblog.org/2008/02/15/fair-in-religious-news-service/#comment-952 David wrote: <blockquote>Greg Smith created an illustrated wiki article that combined the contributions of FAIR members and his own to treat the subject with much more clarity than my own response to Wecker, a portion of which is included below.</blockquote> In in interests of clarity, I should point out that the issues and perspectives raised on the wiki page article were developed well before this current article or any interviews about it, though I let it languish until I heard someone actually thought this was a live issue. I added a quote provided by David from Robert J. Matthews when he mentioned his interview, as he describes. The rest of the material was older. My article was stimulated by a related discussion on the MADB; it was intended to be a general approach to the topic in artistic context. As a general treatment of the underlying issues, no specific piece(s) of art are discussed. Readers will have to decide for themselves what relevance (if any) it has. David wrote:

Greg Smith created an illustrated wiki article that combined the contributions of FAIR members and his own to treat the subject with much more clarity than my own response to Wecker, a portion of which is included below.

In in interests of clarity, I should point out that the issues and perspectives raised on the wiki page article were developed well before this current article or any interviews about it, though I let it languish until I heard someone actually thought this was a live issue.

I added a quote provided by David from Robert J. Matthews when he mentioned his interview, as he describes. The rest of the material was older.

My article was stimulated by a related discussion on the MADB; it was intended to be a general approach to the topic in artistic context. As a general treatment of the underlying issues, no specific piece(s) of art are discussed.

Readers will have to decide for themselves what relevance (if any) it has.

]]> By: Mike Parker http://www.fairblog.org/2008/02/15/fair-in-religious-news-service/#comment-826 Mike Parker Wed, 20 Feb 2008 22:19:43 +0000 http://www.fairblog.org/2008/02/15/fair-in-religious-news-service/#comment-826 Seth, It's ("It is") also used for contractions. Many people mistakenly use it for plural nouns ("noun's"), where it's inappropriate. One of my favorite drawings: <a href="http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif" rel="nofollow"><i>Bob's Quick Guide to the Apostrophe, You Idiots.</i></a> Seth,

It’s (”It is”) also used for contractions.

Many people mistakenly use it for plural nouns (”noun’s”), where it’s inappropriate.

One of my favorite drawings: Bob’s Quick Guide to the Apostrophe, You Idiots.

]]> By: Seth R. http://www.fairblog.org/2008/02/15/fair-in-religious-news-service/#comment-786 Seth R. Mon, 18 Feb 2008 02:04:12 +0000 http://www.fairblog.org/2008/02/15/fair-in-religious-news-service/#comment-786 It is incorrect. The apostrophe is only used to show possession. It is incorrect. The apostrophe is only used to show possession.

]]> By: Robert Fields http://www.fairblog.org/2008/02/15/fair-in-religious-news-service/#comment-766 Robert Fields Sun, 17 Feb 2008 04:51:29 +0000 http://www.fairblog.org/2008/02/15/fair-in-religious-news-service/#comment-766 So are you saying i don't need it when talking of critic's or rock's. I am terrible at writing. I make mistake's in what i write all the time. Should i be writing mistakes or mistake's? It just sounds dumb to me to write mistake's mistakes if that's what you were suggesting. But i would write it the other way if you think thats better. Should i write that's or thats? Maybe it's better to give up on me. I am a smart guy and it's not how you write thing's badly, but your ideas. But if writing ideas is better than writing it idea's i will do so. I alway's write plural thing's with them. So are you saying i don’t need it when talking of critic’s or rock’s. I am terrible at writing. I make mistake’s in what i write all the time. Should i be writing mistakes or mistake’s? It just sounds dumb to me to write mistake’s mistakes if that’s what you were suggesting. But i would write it the other way if you think thats better. Should i write that’s or thats?

Maybe it’s better to give up on me. I am a smart guy and it’s not how you write thing’s badly, but your ideas. But if writing ideas is better than writing it idea’s i will do so. I alway’s write plural thing’s with them.

]]> By: Phouchg http://www.fairblog.org/2008/02/15/fair-in-religious-news-service/#comment-763 Phouchg Sun, 17 Feb 2008 04:15:36 +0000 http://www.fairblog.org/2008/02/15/fair-in-religious-news-service/#comment-763 Using an apostrophe before an "S" is improper written English. It weakens your argument because it makes you look stupid. S'orry, it make's you look s'tupid. Using an apostrophe before an “S” is improper written English. It weakens your argument because it makes you look stupid.

S’orry, it make’s you look s’tupid.

]]> By: Robert Fields http://www.fairblog.org/2008/02/15/fair-in-religious-news-service/#comment-758 Robert Fields Sat, 16 Feb 2008 23:09:09 +0000 http://www.fairblog.org/2008/02/15/fair-in-religious-news-service/#comment-758 I see critic's as wanting them portrayed as magic rock's. That Joseph Smith was using an occult method of divination forbidden by the Bible.(Deut. 18:10;Jeremiah 29:8,9) That he never ever did use in translation the interpreter's. That he never ever had anything, but the magic rock's. I have seen two Anti-Restoration film's where Joseph Smith is portrayed as being under the hypnotic power of the Devil. And the Devil's light shine's upon his eye's. I have had the magic rock conversation with several critic's of Joseph Smith. And i could not find FAIR as dealing with scripture based objection's to his so-called magic rock method of translation. If it has dealt with Deut.18:10, or Jeremiah 29:8,9 i missed it. I myself merely point out the law and it's rule's have been abolished so Jesus can allow the method for translation if he wishe's. I see critic’s as wanting them portrayed as magic rock’s. That Joseph Smith was using an occult method of divination forbidden by the Bible.(Deut. 18:10;Jeremiah 29:8,9) That he never ever did use in translation the interpreter’s. That he never ever had anything, but the magic rock’s.

I have seen two Anti-Restoration film’s where Joseph Smith is portrayed as being under the hypnotic power of the Devil. And the Devil’s light shine’s upon his eye’s.

I have had the magic rock conversation with several critic’s of Joseph Smith. And i could not find FAIR as dealing with scripture based objection’s to his so-called magic rock method of translation. If it has dealt with Deut.18:10, or Jeremiah 29:8,9 i missed it. I myself merely point out the law and it’s rule’s have been abolished so Jesus can allow the method for translation if he wishe’s.

]]> By: lpoulsen http://www.fairblog.org/2008/02/15/fair-in-religious-news-service/#comment-733 lpoulsen Fri, 15 Feb 2008 19:25:44 +0000 http://www.fairblog.org/2008/02/15/fair-in-religious-news-service/#comment-733 Unfortunately a critical understanding of history and doctrine does not always occur in the same person or persons as artistic talent. we are all influenced by both current Church and non church cultural ides and information. Larry P Unfortunately a critical understanding of history and doctrine does not always occur in the same person or persons as artistic talent. we are all influenced by both current Church and non church cultural ides and information.

Larry P

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