Which doesn’t eliminate the supernatural. You being unconvinced that the supernatural exists doesn’t require me to conclude that it doesn’t.

As to your last paragraph, you start wandering into strange territory in your suggestion that god is simply an advanced alien. The point is, anything supernatural is absurd. The truth is that something may just be more complex than you can imagine at the moment.

Sorry it took so long to answer.

Thinking that we’re wrong is one thing; actively trying to undermine our faith is what separates the anti-Mormons from the those who aren’t (Mind you, I am NOT saying that you qualify!).

To answer your questions, yes, yes, no, respectively–though not necessarily how it has been traditionally understood. For example, I can believe that there was a Troy and a Trojan War and an Odysseus, without believing all of the stuff that goes with it.

Come to think of it, why can’t the Greek gods be evolutionary advanced beings who did weird things there and then? Moreover, why wouldn’t Jehovah qualify as an advanced being? In what way would they fly in the face of reason? Is there evidence that there are NOT advanced beings that can be called gods?

Militant Muslims (or at least the leadership!) tend to be trained in western universities, which are often socialist in outlook. Further, these leaders have often expressed sympathy for both Hitler’s aims and tactics. Moreover, the only thing they have against Hitler is that he didn’t finish the job.

While fascism (at least in its German variety) is *national* socialist rather than regional or global, if we view it in light of militant Islam’s desire for one pan-Islamic empire, and their adimiration for fascism’s greatest leader, Adolf Hitler, the word, “Islamofascism” seems to me a close-enough description of these extremists.

Us Reorganized LDS are the target of anti-Mormon activity also. I don’t see any such ministry or person involved as pro-LDS, or pro-Community of Christ member.

I had a guy tell me he love’s Mormon’s, but hate’s Mormonism. You can sense the hate that some of these people carry with them. To me you can’t hate my faith and not hate me because it’s a part of me. Yet i try and sense that some of these people really do want me to be saved from hell which is nice of them. So i try and look beyond their prejudice to find good in them.

I don’t know over using label’s help’s me. Certainly they should not be dignified with being called pro-Mormon. But i try not to call them anti-Mormon in conversation. It’s about as good a label to fight over as it is the phony cult label they came up with. Until they stop the name calling i won’t stop calling them anti-Mormon. Consider me a type of cristian though heretical and i will stop calling them anti-Mormon.

I have met some LDS critic’s. I met several time’s with the person who has the terrible Mormon’s in Shock website. I met Dr. Crane who was in the Godmaker’s film. I met very briefly Ed Decker and Jim Spencer. I met Mark Care’s who wrote Speaking The Truth in Love To Mormon’s. He Pastor’s a local church. He was the only critic i met in that i felt good about.

I met Dr. Crane because i had written his college a letter asking about the person’s in Ed Decker’s film. It was when Robert L. and Rosemary Brown’s expose book on them came out. So he called thinking i was in cahoot’s with them. I was sad to hear that the expose on Jerald and Sandra Tanner Robert L. and Rosemary Brown was working on will never be published. I hate to see their cabinet’s full of information end up in the trash, or some archive.

Two of the critic’s lived in Nampa, Idaho where i live. Ed Decker and Jim were at Cornerstone Worship center in Nampa, Idaho giving a lecture.

I just try to meet the Anti-Mormon activist’s whenever possible to size them up.

I have no objection to the term “anti-Mormon” because it is accurate. “Islamofascist,” on the other hand, implies that militant Islam (a perfectly acceptable term, BTW) incorporates the methods and goals of fascism, which it does not.

Militant Islam is a hyper-fundamentalist religious advocacy held by loose alliance of disparate groups who have a single goal: to harm those who oppose Islam and who (in their view) persecute and harass Muslims.

Fascism, on the other hand, is a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, who forcibly suppresses opposition and criticism, and regiments the military and all industry and commerce to the party. It emphasizes aggressive nationalism and often racism.

I recognize that “normal Muslims don’t do dastardly stuff,” and I fully accept that we should not “give in to [the] demands” of militant Islamics. I merely object to the term “Islamofascist” because, as a I stated above, it’s inaccurate and designed for propagandistic effect.

Exactly like the term “Mormon cult.”

Under your reasoning, perhaps we ought to stop using the term anti-Mormon altogether–and give in to them!

I use the word, “Islamofascist” to distinguish these extremist, militant murderers from mainstream Islam. It is a recognition that normal Muslims don’t do dastardly stuff like suicide bombing civilian children, and the Islamofascists are NOT going to become nice guys if we give in to their demands.

Really, Mike, the PA responding to the Israeli offer to give them 95% of what whey wanted with an intifida back in 2000 (and the PA were more “moderate” than Hezbollah!) should have told you SOMETHING!

The term “Islamofascist” is closely related to the term “Mormon cult” in that (a) they are both inaccurate and (b) they are designed to provoke emotional rather than rational, thoughtful reactions. Both terms are propaganda used by a certain segment that wants to incite a militaristic response.

Steven and I have discussed this amongst ourselves, but I wanted to make my disagreement here public. Contrary to popular belief, not all FAIR volunteers think exactly alike on every issue.