How much easier it is to know where one stands, as opposed to trusting those who profess “love” for us, yet betray that trust by doing vile things to us, thus, adding insult to injury!

Look, Rev. Phelps and the Westboro Baptists have done us all a favour by declaring themselves our enemy. There’s no betrayed trust, because there was never any trust to betray!

You assume that everyone agrees with you that gay marriage is a civil rights issue. Many do, and many do not.

There is a world of difference between an organization promoting equal civil rights, vs. an organization fighting against equal civil rights, Sasha Bill. I’m surprised you see these as equal actions. Would you see both actions the same if one church was lobbying to deny civil rights to African Americans, while another church was lobbying against that bigotted view?

Regarding gay marriage , I find it interesting that those who complained about the LDS Church’s involvement on one side of that issue did not seem to have any problem with the Unitarian Church’s involvement on the opposite side. As a Mormon and a former Unitarian I find that rather amusing ( as well as a tad hypocritical).

I just listened to [one of their sermons]. It might have been 2 hours, I’m not sure. It is a pretty disgusting bit of hate speech as far as I’m concerned. But I think I finally understand their reasoning.

They have no desire whatsoever to change anyone with their picketing. They are not trying to recruit or to get people to repent. They don’t care if anyone likes them or agrees with them.

They are extreme Calvinists and believe that it is God’s intent to damn almost the entire population of the world to an eternal, fiery hell. God is angry and vengeful and cares nothing at all for anyone but the few He has picked to live. They believe God is mocking and toying with people around the world by killing them slowly and piecemeal as retribution for their wickedness.

They see themselves as a small group of the elect. They see themselves as the persecuted and threatened ones with the whole world out to destroy them. Anything comforting or kind that God says in the scriptures is directed to them alone, not to anyone else in the world. Any time someone dies, particularly in a nature disaster or in war, they see it as God’s coming to their rescue and fighting their battle. They think God is laughing as He kills these people and they are rejoicing with Him. They view the rest of humanity as we might view disease-laden mosquitos and they hope for everyone else’s torture and destruction as we might be glad to see a swamp drained and the mosquitos DDT’ed out of existence.

In some ways, they are like the suicide bombers. They cannot be frustrated because they have no goal other than to rejoice in the misery of others. If you mock them or attack them, they are pleased to be vindicated as being God’s persecuted elect. If you ignore them they are pleased to be able to rejoice in your misery in peace. If you try to reason with them that they are ineffective or counterproductive in their methods, they inform you that they have no desire to be effective or productive and that they are pleased to know that you really are perverted and damned and simply look forward to your destruction.

There is a horrible sense of pure evil about them; a sense of utter separation from Christ.

Thank you for your condemnation of WBC.

It is sometimes too easy for us Mormons to lump people like them in with all evangelical Christians — and yet we get upset when child-abusing polygamist cults are lumped in with us.

I’m glad you publicly made this important distinction.

“Calvinist vs. Calvinist, the Ultimate Showdown ™(results are pre-destined).”

Having been raised by Moderate (which means liberal I guess) Calvinists I find that way too funny

I fervently hate WBC’s work.

I hate their signs.

I hate their literature.

I hate their preaching.

And I hate it all, not because of how it might reflect upon Berean Baptist Church up here in Idaho Falls.

In it’s continual and dreadful distortion, I hate their work because it falls wickedly short of my God’s glory.