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	<title>Comments on: A Refreshing Sorta-Mormon Celebrity</title>
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	<description>Defending Mormonism</description>
	<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 16:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Allen Wyatt</title>
		<link>http://www.fairblog.org/2008/01/16/a-refreshing-sorta-mormon-celebrity/#comment-93</link>
		<dc:creator>Allen Wyatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 17:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, Patrick. That's quite the comment. I would like to address a few of your assertions, if I might.

&lt;blockquote&gt;...he most likely noticed that Allen asserts that most ex-Mormons “carry … emotional baggage and possess the ‘Church is evil incarnate’ attitude,” and felt that was an unfair characterization.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I never said that most ex-Mormons carry that baggage or attitude, but that &lt;i&gt;many&lt;/i&gt; do. (Go back and read the post.) I would never say that most do, because I don't believe that. However, many &lt;i&gt;really do&lt;/i&gt; have those feelings. (Ever been to ironically named Recovery from Mormonism board lately, or subscribed to one of the ex-Mormon mailing lists, or been to one of the many post-Mormon get-togethers that regularly occur? The feelings and attitudes abound, are reinforced, and are fostered.)

&lt;blockquote&gt;The reality is that many, many people leave the Church and remain fond of major aspects of their Mormon past, as well as on good terms with Church members.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Agreed.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Not everyone is out to “get” Mormonism, something FAIR cannot admit or else it would have no reason for existing.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I agree that not everyone is out to "get" Mormonism. But if you think that such a belief is the reason why FAIR exists, then you really don't know anything about FAIR. The fact is, there are criticisms made against the beliefs and practices of the Church. Not everyone makes them, but some do. And, in the marketplace of ideas, such criticisms should be examined and addressed. That is what FAIR does.

-Allen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, Patrick. That&#8217;s quite the comment. I would like to address a few of your assertions, if I might.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230;he most likely noticed that Allen asserts that most ex-Mormons “carry … emotional baggage and possess the ‘Church is evil incarnate’ attitude,” and felt that was an unfair characterization.</p></blockquote>
<p>I never said that most ex-Mormons carry that baggage or attitude, but that <i>many</i> do. (Go back and read the post.) I would never say that most do, because I don&#8217;t believe that. However, many <i>really do</i> have those feelings. (Ever been to ironically named Recovery from Mormonism board lately, or subscribed to one of the ex-Mormon mailing lists, or been to one of the many post-Mormon get-togethers that regularly occur? The feelings and attitudes abound, are reinforced, and are fostered.)</p>
<blockquote><p>The reality is that many, many people leave the Church and remain fond of major aspects of their Mormon past, as well as on good terms with Church members.</p></blockquote>
<p>Agreed.</p>
<blockquote><p>Not everyone is out to “get” Mormonism, something FAIR cannot admit or else it would have no reason for existing.</p></blockquote>
<p>I agree that not everyone is out to &#8220;get&#8221; Mormonism. But if you think that such a belief is the reason why FAIR exists, then you really don&#8217;t know anything about FAIR. The fact is, there are criticisms made against the beliefs and practices of the Church. Not everyone makes them, but some do. And, in the marketplace of ideas, such criticisms should be examined and addressed. That is what FAIR does.</p>
<p>-Allen</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://www.fairblog.org/2008/01/16/a-refreshing-sorta-mormon-celebrity/#comment-92</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 17:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Easy there, Mitchell. Not every post needs to terribly deep.&lt;/em&gt; 

NorthboundZax, I have yet to see a post on this site that is "terribly deep" or noteworthy. While I agree that noting intersections of religion and pop culture can be intriguing, I imagine Mitchell didn't recognize Allen's post as "fun and interesting." Instead, he most likely noticed that Allen asserts that most ex-Mormons "carry ... emotional baggage and possess the 'Church is evil incarnate' attitude," and felt that was an unfair characterization.

The reality is that many, many people leave the Church and remain fond of major aspects of their Mormon past, as well as on good terms with Church members. There's nothing noteworthy about this. Not everyone is out to "get" Mormonism, something FAIR cannot admit or else it would have no reason for existing. Welcome to the Bloggernacle. Here you will find "Mormons" of all stripes (active, inactive, orthodox, conservative, liberal, former, cultural, gay, straight, etc.) that get along very well and try and leave insulting insinuations (like Allen suggests here) to themselves in an effort to learn and grow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Easy there, Mitchell. Not every post needs to terribly deep.</em> </p>
<p>NorthboundZax, I have yet to see a post on this site that is &#8220;terribly deep&#8221; or noteworthy. While I agree that noting intersections of religion and pop culture can be intriguing, I imagine Mitchell didn&#8217;t recognize Allen&#8217;s post as &#8220;fun and interesting.&#8221; Instead, he most likely noticed that Allen asserts that most ex-Mormons &#8220;carry &#8230; emotional baggage and possess the &#8216;Church is evil incarnate&#8217; attitude,&#8221; and felt that was an unfair characterization.</p>
<p>The reality is that many, many people leave the Church and remain fond of major aspects of their Mormon past, as well as on good terms with Church members. There&#8217;s nothing noteworthy about this. Not everyone is out to &#8220;get&#8221; Mormonism, something FAIR cannot admit or else it would have no reason for existing. Welcome to the Bloggernacle. Here you will find &#8220;Mormons&#8221; of all stripes (active, inactive, orthodox, conservative, liberal, former, cultural, gay, straight, etc.) that get along very well and try and leave insulting insinuations (like Allen suggests here) to themselves in an effort to learn and grow.</p>
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		<title>By: NorthboundZax</title>
		<link>http://www.fairblog.org/2008/01/16/a-refreshing-sorta-mormon-celebrity/#comment-91</link>
		<dc:creator>NorthboundZax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 15:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Easy there, Mitchell.  Not every post needs to terribly deep.  That's part of the enjoyment of the bloggosphere.  Besides, sometimes it can be fun and interesting to see where Mormon and pop culture intersect.  I found Aaron Eckhart's (Thank You for Smoking) interview with Terri Gross similarly interesting when he talked about his past Mormon experiences and relationship with BYU.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Easy there, Mitchell.  Not every post needs to terribly deep.  That&#8217;s part of the enjoyment of the bloggosphere.  Besides, sometimes it can be fun and interesting to see where Mormon and pop culture intersect.  I found Aaron Eckhart&#8217;s (Thank You for Smoking) interview with Terri Gross similarly interesting when he talked about his past Mormon experiences and relationship with BYU.</p>
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		<title>By: Mitchell</title>
		<link>http://www.fairblog.org/2008/01/16/a-refreshing-sorta-mormon-celebrity/#comment-89</link>
		<dc:creator>Mitchell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 03:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, is this really post-worthy? People leave the church all the time (or go inactive) but do not become hostile to the church. Are you running out of post ideas, or what?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, is this really post-worthy? People leave the church all the time (or go inactive) but do not become hostile to the church. Are you running out of post ideas, or what?</p>
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